Compact Antennas TOC (Framed)

`CONTENTS`

END OF THIS BOARD antenneX 01 Jan 2000

Re: END OF THIS BOARD bedwards@hot1.net 02 Aug 2000

CFA Physics davids@david15.dallas.nationwide.net 29 Dec 1999

CFA Quad Phaser Part 1 Jef Verborgt 29 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Quad Phaser Part 1 Harold Allen, W4MMC 29 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Quad Phaser Part 1 Jef Verborgt 29 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Quad Phaser Part 1 stefano IK5IIR 31 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Quad Phaser Part 1 Jef 03 Jan 2000

Re: Second Try... hal.w9uya,ann7how@aol.com 27 Dec 1999

More from Brazil's CFA Reporters Jack L. Stone 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Hal,W9UYA 25 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Gary Nixon 26 Dec 1999

Fornatting problems Gary Nixon 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Jack L. Stone 26 Dec 1999

Re: Second Try.... Håkan Widenstedt 26 Dec 1999

Re: Second Try.... 25 Feb 2001

Re: New CFA Information Available Håkan Widenstedt 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available K5CNF@antennex.com 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Hal, W9UYA, ann7how@aol.com 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Frank Ivan - k0fei@arrl.net 26 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Jack L. Stone 27 Dec 1999

Brazilian Field Strength Report of Tanta CFA Station Jack L. Stone 24 Dec 1999

CFA Physics Maurice C Hately, GM3HAT 24 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Physics Alan Boswell G3NOQ 24 Dec 1999

CFA FIELD TESTS HAL, W9UYA 23 Dec 1999

Re: CFA FIELD TESTS davids@david15.dallas.nationwide.net 29 Dec 1999

Re: CFA FIELD TESTS Jack L. Stone 25 Dec 1999

Re: CFA FIELD TESTS K5CNF@antennex.com 23 Dec 1999

More CFA Installations Jack L. Stone 23 Dec 1999

New CFA Information Available Chris Trask <ctrask@primenet.com> 23 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Steve Olney 23 Dec 1999

Re: New CFA Information Available Håkan Widenstedt 25 Dec 1999

CFA Physics Alan Boswell G3NOQ 21 Dec 1999

CFA ---REQUIRES E and H DECOUPLING Maurice C Hately GM3HAT 20 Dec 1999

Re: CFA ---REQUIRES E and H DECOUPLING Chris Trask N7ZWY 21 Dec 1999

CFA ---REQUIRES E and H DECOUPLING Maurice C Hately GM3HAT 20 Dec 1999

Crossed Field Antenna List Frank Ivan K0FEI@arrl.net 17 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List Jack L. Stone 18 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List Frank Ivan - K0FEI@arrl.net 19 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List Jack L. Stone 19 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List Chip N1IR 17 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List 18 Dec 1999

Re: Crossed Field Antenna List Joe Park, ktnjoe@netzero.net 26 Sep 2001

CFA-- REQUIRES E AND H DECOUPLING? Chip N1IR 17 Dec 1999

Re: CFA-- REQUIRES E AND H DECOUPLING? Frank Ivan - K0FEI@arrl.net 17 Dec 1999

Re: CFA-- REQUIRES E AND H DECOUPLING? ctrask@primenet.com 20 Dec 1999

Re: CFA-- REQUIRES E AND H DECOUPLING? 18 Dec 1999

CFA - No New Physics Claimed Jack L. Stone 12 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed Chris Trask - ctrask@primenet.com 13 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed 14 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed ctrask@primenet.com 16 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed davids@david15.dallas.nationwide.net 18 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed 16 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed ctrask@primenet.com 20 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed 16 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed ctrask@primenet.com 16 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - Why CAN'T A SIMPLE DISROOF BE SHOWN? Chip N1IR 17 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - Why CAN'T A SIMPLE DISROOF BE SHOWN? ctrask@primenet.com 17 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - Why CAN'T A SIMPLE DISPROOF BE SHOWN? Chip N1IR 17 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed ctrask@primenet.com 16 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed Aldo IZ1ANT 15 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed John Matz - KB9II - 15 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed davids@david15.dallas.nationwide.net 13 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed Frank Ivan - K0FEI@arrl.net 12 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed Chip N1IR 14 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - No New Physics Claimed K5CNF@antennex.com 12 Dec 1999

Re: CFA - Can it be Disproved? Chip N1IR 13 Dec 1999

CFA Measurements K5CNF@antenneX.com 08 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements Chip N1IR 09 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements Frank Ivan K0FEI@arrl.net 09 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements Frank Ivan - K0FEI@arrl.net 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements: Any Monopole Comparison? 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements: Any Monopole Comparison? K5CNF@antennex.com 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements: Any Monopole Comparison? 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements: Any Monopole Comparison? K5CNF@antennex.com 10 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Measurements: Any Monopole Comparison? 10 Dec 1999

Board Crash System Adm 08 Dec 1999

Re: Board Crash Jay Pole 09 Dec 1999

Re: Board Crash K5CNF@antennex.com 09 Dec 1999

Board Crash System 08 Dec 1999

Circuit modeling explanation for CFAs John Matz - KB9II 05 Nov 1999

Re: Circuit modeling explanation for CFAs Chip N1IR 15 Dec 1999

CTHA Ralph N6YRY 04 Nov 1999

CTHA Evaluation Ed, ae4ec 02 Nov 1999

Re: CTHA Evaluation K5CNF@antennex.com 06 Nov 1999

Hawks CTHA Evaluation Jerry Wilson, KF4CQR 02 Nov 1999

CFA info John - AB4MS 26 Oct 1999

short antennas Graham Stratford VE3FHM 23 Oct 1999

modeling VE3FHM dipole Aldo IZ1ANT 26 Oct 1999

Re: short antennas Jerry K8gww 23 Oct 1999

Re: short antennas Jerry 23 Oct 1999

Re: short antennas Jerry K8gww 23 Oct 1999

TLA or transmission line antenna Nancy 19 Oct 1999

Re: TLA or transmission line antenna Mark- KC3JV RE: TLA 20 Oct 1999

CFA Efficiency John Matz - KB9II 15 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency K5CNF@antennex.com 16 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency John Matz - KB9II 18 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency K5CNF@antennex.com 19 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency John Matz - KB9I 20 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency Frank Ivan - K0FEI 21 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency John Matz - KB9II 21 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency Frank Ivan - K0FEI 21 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency John Matz - KB9II 21 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Efficiency K5CNF@antennex.com 21 Oct 1999

CFA success in Denmark (OZ) OZ1CWP - Bjarne 14 Oct 1999

Re: CFA success in Denmark (OZ) 15 Dec 1999

Re: CFA success in Denmark (OZ) Anselmo IZ3BGJ 15 Oct 1999

CFA circuit modeling John Matz - KB9II 14 Oct 1999

Re: CFA circuit modeling 15 Dec 1999

Re: CFA circuit modeling John Matz - KB9II 14 Oct 1999

CFA Success (lack of) Steve Olney VK2ZTO/AXSO 14 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Success (lack of) Chip N1IR 15 Dec 1999

Re: CFA Success (lack of) Warren Pratt - NR0V 15 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Success (lack of) K5CNF@antennex.com 15 Oct 1999

Re: CFA Success (lack of) John Matz - KB9II 14 Oct 1999

CTHA Hawks Jack L. Stone, antenneX 13 Oct 1999

Re: CTHA Hawks Jery K8gww 13 Oct 1999

DDA Disk hole Kirk Wood 12 Oct 1999

Re: DDA Disk hole K5CNF@antennex.com 12 Oct 1999

Size of 160m DDA Mark KC3JV 12 Oct 1999

Re: Size of 160m DDA Jerry K8gww 13 Oct 1999

Re: Size of 160m DDA Jack L. Stone, antenneX 12 Oct 1999

Re: Size of 160m DDA Jack L. Stone, antenneX 13 Oct 1999

Re: Size of 160m DDA K5CNF@antennex.com 13 Oct 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 06 Oct 1999

isotron stan w1mdz 05 Oct 1999

Isotrons Nancy 05 Oct 1999

Isotron antennas Nancy 04 Oct 1999

Re: Isotron antennas Folkert PA3CQR 26 Jul 2000

Re: Isotron antennas KC5MU George 05 Oct 1999

NEW DDA-1 NETWORK JOHN KB8IKC 03 Oct 1999

Re: NEW DDA-1 NETWORK k5cnf@antennex.com 03 Oct 1999

DDA Functions on Vertical Dan Handelsman, N2DT 02 Oct 1999

Re: DDA Functions on Vertical K5CNF@antennex.com 02 Oct 1999

DDA Nice Article! Tom Cox, KA5NEE 02 Oct 1999

Re: DDA Nice Article! K5CNF@antennex.com 02 Oct 1999

CFAs-what's going on... John Matz KB9II 30 Sep 1999

Re: CFAs-what's going on... George KC5MU 01 Oct 1999

CFA - Isle of Man John Matz KB9II 30 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 30 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 29 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 28 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Loop Harold Allen, W4MMC 29 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Loop Jerry K8gww 29 Sep 1999

Hawks antenna Nancy 27 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna Jack L. Stone, antenneX 30 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna John Matz KB9II 28 Sep 1999

Impedance of CTA? Aldo IZ1ANT 30 Sep 1999

Good Hawks antenna paper Adam Brown 28 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna Jack L. Stone, antenneX 27 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna Nancy 28 Sep 1999

Hawks antenna Nancy 27 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna Jerry K8gww 28 Sep 1999

Re: Hawks antenna k5cnf@antennex.com 27 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 25 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Loop Jack L. Stone, antenneX 26 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 25 Sep 1999

Other CFA designs Steve G0KYA 25 Sep 1999

Try #2 ... BC CFA John Matz KB9II 24 Sep 1999

Re: Try #2 ... BC CFA Jack L. Stone, antenneX 25 Sep 1999

Re: Try #2 ... BC CFA Steve Olney VK2ZTO 24 Sep 1999

Re: Try #2 ... BC CFA (Reply to Steve Olney) Adam Brown 27 Sep 1999

Why do we build CFA? (Answer to Adam) Aldo IZ1ANT 24 Sep 1999

Re: Why do we build CFA? (Answer to Adam) K5CNF@antennex.com 25 Sep 1999

Re: Why do we build CFA? (Answer to Adam) Jack L. Stone, antenneX 25 Sep 1999

Re: Why do we build CFA - Confused 'Feory' Antenna (Answer to Jack L Stone) Adam Brown 27 Sep 1999

Re: Why do we build CFA? (Answer to Adam) Adam Brown (again!) 24 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 23 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Loop Jack Stone 23 Sep 1999

CFA Loop George KC5MU 23 Sep 1999

CFA on 160 pa7ey - Ulrich 23 Sep 1999

To Jack L Stone Adam Brown 23 Sep 1999

Re: To Jack L Stone 22 Aug 2000

Re: To Jack L Stone Jack L. Stone 23 Sep 1999

Re: To Jack L Stone A.Chiles 22 Aug 2000

DDA and Coax CFA John Matz KB9II 22 Sep 1999

Re: DDA and Coax CFA Harold Allen, W4MMC 25 Sep 1999

Re: DDA and Coax CFA IZ3BGJ Anselmo 25 Sep 1999

Re: DDA and Coax CFA Aldo IZ1ANT 24 Sep 1999

CFA Loop KC5MU George 22 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Loop Mark , KC3JV 22 Sep 1999

To Frank Ivan - K0FEI Adam Brown 22 Sep 1999

Re: To Frank Ivan - K0FEI Jack L. Stone, antenneX 22 Sep 1999

Re: To Frank Ivan - K0FEI Frank Ivan - K0FEI - k0fei@arrl.net 22 Sep 1999

Re: To Frank Ivan - K0FEI Adam Brown 23 Sep 1999

Re: To Frank Ivan - K0FEI Frank Ivan - K0FEI - k0fei@arrl.net 23 Sep 1999

CFA Theory H. Sonntag 21 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Theory K5CNF@antennex.com 21 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Theory Adam Brown 21 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Theory K5CNF@antennex.com 21 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Theory Adam Brown 21 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Poynting vector synthesis Adam Brown 21 Sep 1999

CFA - Adam Brown is right Martin Jackman 20 Sep 1999

K3MT Grasswire Hal,W9UYA 20 Sep 1999

CFA claims on Poynting vector synthesis Adam Brown 20 Sep 1999

Re: CFA claims on Poynting vector synthesis Frank Ivan - K0FEI - k0fei@arrl.net 21 Sep 1999

Very fun first experience with GB 2288914 Aldo IZ1ANT 20 Sep 1999

Re: Very fun first experience with GB 2288914 Aselmo IZ3BGJ 21 Sep 1999

Sorry, it was "with the CFA coax loop" Aldo IZ1ANT 20 Sep 1999

CFA Coax Loop Old George KC5MU 19 Sep 1999

CFA Coax Loop KC5MU George 17 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Coax Loop K5CNF@antennex.com 18 Sep 1999

CFA Coax Loop KC5MU George 14 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Coax Loop Mike KB6WFC 14 Sep 1999

Re: Patent GB2330695 Harold Allen, W4MMC 14 Sep 1999

Re: Patent GB2330695 nancy 20 Sep 1999

Re: Patent GB2330695 Aldo IZ1ANT 21 Sep 1999

Re: Patent GB2330695 Nancy 21 Sep 1999

Re: Patent GB2330695 Frank Ivan - K0FEI - k0fei@arrl.net 22 Sep 1999

Patent GB2330695 ann7how@aol.com 13 Sep 1999

CFA wire antenna for SWL J. Verborgt 13 Sep 1999

CFA Patent 2330695 KC5MU George 13 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent 2330695 Mike KB6WFC 14 Sep 1999

CFA Patent 2330695 KC5MU George 12 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent 2330695 J. Verborgt 13 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent 2330695 Frank Ivan - k0fei@arrl.net 14 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent 2330695 J. Verborgt 13 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent 2330695 Mike KB6WFC 13 Sep 1999

CFA GBpatent 2330695 KC5MU George 12 Sep 1999

CFA GBpatent 2330695 KC5MU George in NM 11 Sep 1999

Re: CFA GBpatent 2330695 Jack Stone, antenneX 12 Sep 1999

Re: CFA GBpatent 2330695 Mark KC3JV 13 Sep 1999

Re: CFA GBpatent 2330695 K5CNF@antennex.com 13 Sep 1999

Re: CFA GBpatent 2330695 K5CNF@antennex.com 11 Sep 1999

DDA Electric Fields John Thompson, KB8IKC 10 Sep 1999

Re: DDA Electric Fields K5CNF@antennex.com 10 Sep 1999

A MATCHING NETWORK FOR THE DDA,CFA PAT W2FYX 08 Sep 1999

Re: A MATCHING NETWORK FOR THE DDA,CFA K5CNF@antennex.com 08 Sep 1999

DDA More Info on Disk 2 J.Hildebert F5WH 07 Sep 1999

Re: DDA More Info on Disk 2 K5CNF@antennex.com 07 Sep 1999

CFA Radiation pattern question rhiller@sysdev.com 07 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Radiation pattern question K5CNF@antennex.com 07 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Radiation pattern question Frank Brown 10 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Radiation pattern question K5CNF@antennex.com 11 Sep 1999

DDA - Interesting Antenna! Rick, W5RH 07 Sep 1999

Re: DDA - Interesting Antenna! K5CNF@antennex.com 07 Sep 1999

CFA CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS paobrien@infoave.net W2FYX 06 Sep 1999

Re: CFA CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS George KC5MU 06 Sep 1999

CFAs George KC5MU 06 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Patent GB2330695 Tony Magon VK2IC 05 Sep 1999

re: cfa patents Hal Wright 04 Sep 1999

re: cfa patents Håkan 05 Sep 1999

re: cfa patents Mark, KC3JV 09 Sep 1999

re:cfa patents ann7how@aol.com 04 Sep 1999

Petlowany coil antenna Jerry K8GWW 04 Sep 1999

Re: Petlowany coil antenna vk1brh@dynamite.com.au 06 Oct 1999

Petlowany Coil Antenna 04 Sep 1999

CFA Impedance Matching Data? Warren Pratt, NR0V 03 Sep 1999

Re: CFA Impedance Matching Data? frank roge 01 Aug 2000

Interesting information to all CFA'ers Håkan 03 Sep 1999

Correction to above Håkan 03 Sep 1999

cfa patents ann7how 03 Sep 1999

cfa-matching WeidnerHarry@Hydrometer.de 02 Sep 1999

Re: cfa-matching John Matz KB9II 03 Sep 1999

Re: cfa-matching K5CNF@antennex.com 02 Sep 1999

Re: cfa-matching Mike KB6WFC 03 Sep 1999

Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Adam Brown 31 Aug 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Jack L. Stone, antenneX 02 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed An Open Mind 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed K5CNF@antennex.com 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Adam Brown 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed pinyan@tscnet.com 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed K5CNF@antennex.com 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Håkan 31 Aug 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Adam Brown 01 Sep 1999

Re: Crossed-field antenna theory is flawed Håkan 01 Sep 1999

Dielectric & CFA? Brandon N5JYK 30 Aug 1999

Re: Dielectric & CFA? antenneX 30 Aug 1999

Non-working CFA down-under Steve Olney VK2ZTO 28 Aug 1999

Re: Non-working CFA down-under antenneX 30 Aug 1999

Re: Non-working CFA down-under K5CNF@antennex.com 29 Aug 1999

CFA and height K5CNF@antennex.com 26 Aug 1999

Height of CFA Ozzie Levin W5RK 26 Aug 1999

Re: Height of CFA KB6WFC 26 Aug 1999

Re: Height of CFA Frank Brown 27 Aug 1999

Re: Height of CFA pinyan@tscnet.com 02 Sep 1999

Re: Height of CFA Mike KB6WFC 30 Aug 1999

CFA & 1/4 L Ozzie W5RK 25 Aug 1999

W5RK W1XU 18 Aug 1999

20 Mtr CFA Ozzie Levin W5RK 17 Aug 1999

Re: 20 Mtr CFA Frank Brown 21 Aug 1999

Re: 20 Mtr CFA Jack L. Stone, antenneX 17 Aug 1999

20 MTR CFA Ozzie Levin W5RK 17 Aug 1999

Ozzie Levin, W5RK: 20 mtr CFA Jim Gray, W1XU 16 Aug 1999

Results with my 20 mtr CFA Ozzie Levin W5RK 15 Aug 1999

Re: Results with my 20 mtr CFA KB6WFC 17 Aug 1999

Probes & Legs-Great! Maurice Hately, GM3HAT 14 Aug 1999

Winding a T1 Vernon Harrison 14 Aug 1999

Re: Winding a T1 August Hoecker 14 Aug 1999

Correct the Text? More! Jack Stone, Publisher 10 Aug 1999

Correct the Text? Iain Drysdale, GM3TYS Scotland 08 Aug 1999

Re: Correct the Text? Jack Stone 09 Aug 1999

Re: Correct the Text? Iain Drysdale 09 Aug 1999

VK6APH's CFA phaser/matcher on 160m...problems Jon W2MXW 06 Aug 1999

Re: VK6APH's CFA phaser/matcher on 160m...problems Stefano Ik5IIR 07 Aug 1999

Hakan's CFA Project article Ben, W4KSY 01 Aug 1999

Re: Hakan's CFA Project article Håkan 02 Aug 1999

CFA Success in VK6 Ben/W4KSY 31 Jul 1999

Re: CFA Success in VK6 Gary, WA6HZT 05 Aug 1999

Re: CFA Success in VK6 Phil...VK6APH 05 Aug 1999

Re: CFA Success in VK6 Gary, WA6HZT 05 Aug 1999

CFA Success in VK6 and an alternative matching network Phil... VK6APH 30 Jul 1999

Re: CFA Success in VK6 and an alternative matching network K5cnf@antennex.com 31 Jul 1999

20 Mtr CFA Ozzie Levin W5RK 29 Jul 1999

Building a CFA Ozzie Levin W5rk 21 Jul 1999

Re: Building a CFA stefano IK5IIR 22 Jul 1999

Super-C and CFA Updates John Matz KB9II 16 Jul 1999

Re: Super-C and CFA Updates Jim Barber, N7CXI 22 Jul 1999

Re: Super-C and CFA Updates Gary, WA6HZT 18 Jul 1999

Re: Super-C and CFA Updates John Matz KB9II 20 Jul 1999

Re: Super-C and CFA Updates Gary, WA6HZT 18 Jul 1999

Re: Super-C and CFA Updates IK5IIR Stefano 16 Jul 1999

Compact Antenna Forum Hal Wright, W9UYA 12 Jul 1999

Re: Compact Antenna Forum antenneX 18 Jul 1999

Re: Compact Antenna Forum August, W8MIA 12 Jul 1999

Re: Compact Antenna Forum antenneX 12 Jul 1999

Compact Antenna Forum Hal Wright, W9UYA 12 Jul 1999

Compact Antenna Site 12 Jul 1999

Welcome to new Forum antenneX 7/12/99

Re: Welcome to new Forum Joe Park, ktnjoe@netzero.net 26 Sep 2001